Thinking Out Loud - Ms. Green

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Saturday, May 3, 2008

What if They Gave a Party and Nobody Came?

I’m tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. I keep doing that, and things keep getting worse. I haven’t missed a Presidential election since I was 18 years old, but if I’m alive when this next vote comes up, I will sit it out.

Many have told me this is too crucial a race to sit out. I’m not sure it is crucial. Call me pessimistic, but I believe conservatives have already lost this country.

Whether I’m flying over a cliff in a burning vehicle at 30 miles per hour or at 70 miles per hour, I’m still going to crash and burn.

The Republican Party has abandoned Christians and Conservatives alike. They’ve abandoned us, because we have allowed them to do so. They keep giving us more and more liberal choices in candidates, and we keep accepting them, because…well the guys on the other side of the aisle are even MORE liberal.

Twenty years ago, John McCain would have been a Democrat. A liberal Democrat. Now he is a “conservative Republican.”

What would happen to the GOP if Conservatives and Christians stayed home in droves on Election Day?

1. Their candidate would lose, and Obama or Clinton would be in the White House
2. The Republican leadership would be in danger of extinction.
3. They’d go back to the drawing board and ask themselves what happened.

I believe the only way to get the Grand Old Party back on track is to do to it what it has done to us. Abandon it. Let the Dems win. Let the Liberals win. Then let the GOP come crawling back to its base and ask forgiveness – and then give us what we want: A TRUE CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.

This all sounds good, and I want to believe it. But the truth is, I believe we’ve lost our country. I remind myself that we don’t fight against flesh and blood (Ephesians 6:12). This is a spiritual battle. It’s going to be over soon, and then we won’t need a country anymore, because we’ll be governed by God Himself through Jesus Christ.

I’m afraid there’s going to be a lot of hell in between now and then. My not voting isn’t going to change that.


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At 12:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm pretty frustrated with the lack of a true conservative, but I'll gladly vote for McCain. If nothing else, I think the next President will tip the Supreme Court towards the pro-Roe or anti-Roe for the next couple decades. I'd like to see that plus the true conservatives get fired up to put forth a better candidate next time. I know that is asking a lot!

At 2:45 PM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

I totally understand your thinking - and hope you are right. Maybe I'm being too cynical, but I don't see McCain helping in that area either. He has done a "flip-flop" on the subject of abortion and I just don't trust him to stay true to anti-abortionists once he's in office.

At 11:56 PM, Blogger DAKOTARANGER said...

My conscience is driving me to write in Senator Fred Thompson. I'm unwilling to sacrifice my beliefs to vote for someone so willing to violate the First Amendment...there is no telling how else he would violate the Constitution.

I can understand why others would go ahead and vote for Senator mccain, but I won't.

At 1:49 AM, Blogger Marshall Art said...

I have to disagree, Ms. Green. What's necessary is to get more involved, not to abandon. Most people, and I count myself, don't do nearly enough to insure the type of candidates we really crave. So what is needed is to be more involved by staying as informed as possible in what those already in office are doing, calling or writing representatives to voice concerns and ideas, attend local events or townhall-type meetings, and even get involved with local party organizations or school boards or anything where one can truly make one's feelings heard.

It's unfortunate that we on the right don't have the type of candidate for whom we'd like to cast our votes, but that is largely do to our own inaction regarding holding them accountable. Merely voting isn't enough since those we vote out have already done the damage. We need to make sure low quality politicians don't get that far to begin with, and that takes involving ourselves locally, for that's where most of the politicians come from anyway.

At 7:32 AM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

Dakota, I wish I had the option of writing in a candidate, but in the State of Louisiana you don't have that option. The voting machines don't have a "none of the above" or "other" button I can push.

Fred was my first choice too.

At 7:35 AM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

Marshall, I totally understand what you are saying about getting involved. That's what makes me all the more cynical. I've always been one to campaign, write letters, send letters to the editor, work phone banks, etc. on behalf of condidates I supported. I guess my frustration is in that I see no fruit for my labor. I think I have just an inkling of what Jeremiah must have felt after preaching all those years without a single convert.

You aren't the only one to disagree with me. I'm taking a lot of heat from my friends over this.

At 7:18 PM, Blogger Al-Ozarka said...

Not from me, Ms.Green.

At 9:13 PM, Blogger ELAshley said...

I'm leaning toward writing in Alan Keyes or Fred.

I agree with you Ms Green, and I don't see your view on this as cynical. Jesus IS coming soon. Very soon. The reality is as follows:

1) Europe is growing in Economic Power
2) North Africa is desirous of inclusion in the European Union [can anyone say, 'Revived Roman Empire'?]
3) After 2500 years Israel is a nation once more
4) Israel controls Jerusalem [the time of the Gentiles ended[?] in June of 1967
5) Israel has reacquired the red Heifer necessary for temple sacrifice
6) Israel has reinstituted the Sanhedrin.
7) Israel has prepared all the temple instruments necessary for temple worship
8) Israel has begun training priests
9) "Real ID" is immanent; next year here in the U.S., 2011 in the UK and Europe
And many many more signs besides

Realistically, nothing has to occur before Christ can return for His Church. America isn't even mentioned in End-Time prophecy. Who then, with even a modicum of discernment, can deny that we are living in the Last Days?

Every time we pray, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth...." we are asking for God to punish this earth as foretold in Revelation... that 3/4's of the earth's population [post rapture] dead.

Nothing we do can prevent the coming of the Lord. Why any Christian would pray to prevent His coming is beyond me.

I understand Neil's desire to see RvW overturned-- I'm with him 1000%

I understand Marshall's desire to not be a quitter-- I'm with him 1000%

But let's not forget that God is in control. ALWAYS in control. He raises up weak leaders when nations are to be judged, and strong leaders when they are to be blessed. WHOEVER wins this fall, it is God's will, and it is in His control. Remember, HIS prophetic plan is in motion [has it ever stopped?] and everything that happens sets the stage for bible prophecy to be fulfilled... for the rapture to occur and the tribulation to begin.

Personally speaking, I'm waiting for the return of the Lord. If I get to vote along the way, great! But I'll vote with Him in mind... with the conscience the Holy Ghost residing in my heart controls so dictates.

Conscience tells me I can't vote John McCain. Conscience further tells me I cannot vote Clinton or Obama. Who then does that leave for me to vote?

Bravo Ms Green. Follow your conscience. Follow the prompting of the Holy Spirit. The Lord can't be displeased if you do.

I understand, and I'm with you

At 9:36 PM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

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At 9:36 PM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

Thanks for the support Al Ozarka. You too Eric. You mentioned Alan Keyes. He's a great guy and would make a better President than the top three. Or how about J.C.Watts? There are plenty of men, black and white, who are much more qualified to be in the White House, but I wonder if they just don't want have the stomach to put up with the things that go along with running for that office.

At 12:55 PM, Blogger Al-Ozarka said...

"Why any Christian would pray to prevent His coming is beyond me." - EL

To see more souls saved?

At 1:36 PM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

"To see more souls saved?

My dad and my brother and his wife are two that fall into that category. I want to see them saved before the Rapture, not during the Tribulation.

At 5:20 PM, Blogger ELAshley said...

Fair enough, D. That would be a good reason. Beyond that, however, I remain firm.

At 12:40 AM, Blogger Marshall Art said...

Eric. If you have a clear notion of "degrees of badness" and can find a noticable difference between McCain and either of the Bobsey Twins, that is, that McCain is clearly and tangibly less dangerous to the welfare of the nation, I have to stand amazed that you would not be morally compelled to prevent the worst from happening. Especially with a Supreme at risk. That kind of hurt can last a lifetime. To push for your ultimate candidate has to stop if the candidate couldn't make the ballot. Think of the worst thing that could happen if one of these three won, or rather, who would be the worst of the three, and your write in vote is help for that worst option to become president. THAT is the fact of the matter. Because that write in doesn't stand an ice cube's chance in Hades of ever winning the White House. You COULD have helped defeat the worst had you voted for the person most likely to square off against him/her. I totally understand your position and feel it as well. I am not a fan of McCain. But he's the only one that can beat the winner of the Dem battle.


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