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Sunday, March 29, 2009

Science and Christianity

I'm not posting much lately due to other obligations, so I thought I would resurrect a few posts from several years back, when I didn't have as many people reading as I do now.

Here's one from May of 2006, with minor editing:

As a former agnostic for over 40 years, I am familiar with the arguments used to attack Christianity and the Bible. However, having been metaphorically "hit in the head" and put in my place by God(Romans 1:22), I now understand that these arguments and attacks don't hold water in the face of the evidence of the truth of God's Word.
Humans sometimes err on the side of science (Spontaneous Generation, only 1,200 stars in the heavens, a flat earth, using leaches for medical cures, etc. — all once considered "science"), but to say that science and Christianity are incompatible is to sell science short. Where science and Christianity differ, science has or will come around. God is the ultimate scientist and mathematician, and medical and scientific men and women of great intellect and intelligence have attested to the accuracy of the Bible. These include Isaac Newton, Francis Bacon (primarily responsible for the establishment of the "scientific method"), William Hershel (the astronomer), Samuel Morse (inventor of the telegraph), Louis Pasteur, John Ambrose Fleming (considered by many as the father of modern electronics) and the list goes on.
Agnostics have sneered at their perceived "hundreds of historical mistakes" in the Bible — only to be silenced by the science of archeology. The Bible told us before science that the Earth was round (Isaiah 40:22), the Earth was suspended in space (Job 26:7), the stars are innumerable (Genesis 15:5), there are mountains and canyons in the sea (2 Samuel 22:16 and Jonah 2:6), there are ocean currents (Psalms 8:8), and it even declares the first and second laws of Thermodynamics (Genesis 2:1-3 and Psalms 102:25-26). The Bible is not a fairytale and it is totally and entirely accurate. It is a handbook for living and contains the ticket to eternal life (Romans 10:9).
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At 12:13 PM, Anonymous V said...

I find the whole debate on Science Vs Religion(in your case Christianity) a little silly. Science is about knowledge and understanding how things work. Religion/religious people shouldn't view it as an anti-religion. Same thing goes with scientific community who look at religious people as anti-science group!! :)
As we know, science is far from perfect and complete. It's a journye that will probably go on for ever. And, if there is a God, science will find it and prove it.

At 12:54 PM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

I do not view Science as anti-religion. It is scientific "scholars" who often view Science as knowledge and the Bible as fables.

That is the issue I am referring to.

I studied anthropology and archeology in high school and loved it. I've been on numerous archeological excavations. Science and math are both intriguing to me. However, where we part ways is when Science claims that it is right and the Bible is wrong, or when it says it is the source of all knowledge instead of God being the source of all knowledge.

At 12:43 PM, Anonymous V said...

"when Science claims that it is right and the Bible is wrong"

Remember, science is always right. Otherwise, it's not science, it will be just an opinion. Most beautiful thing about Science is - it is open, open for debate, validations/verifications and changes.

Even religion will be a part of science since the ultimate goal is to seek truth. If you are about accepting the truth, there will be no clash between religions OR science and religion.

At 9:49 PM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

Remember, science is always right

I disagree. Science is not always right. I cited some of the instances where Science has been wrong.

I see no conflict between Scripture and science when seeking truth. However, when science disagrees with Scripture, knowing that God is the author of Scripture, science is wrong, regardless of whether it APPEARS wrong.

At 1:33 PM, Anonymous V said...

How can science be wrong? It canbe incomplete due to on-going research/study. However, it can never be wrong since science is all bout truth.

Do you have examples of scneice being wrong? I'm just curious.

At 4:56 PM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

Do you have examples of scneice being wrong? I'm just curious.

Science once said the world was flat.

Science once said there were only about 1200 stars.

Science once used leaches to "bleed out" bad blood.

Other "science" which turned out to be wrong:

Spontaneous generation

There have been many others as well, but you asked for some examples.

At 10:22 PM, Anonymous Herm said...

Ms.Green, Science is neither fully accurate, nor fully error. It is contaminated with conjecture, bias, ,personal agendas, and in some cases, academic ignorance (aka no common sense). Global warming is an excellent example of of the faults I've listed . As you so well stated, science has a history of glaring errors mixed in with valuable discoveries.
Also science in not fully puristic in its professional application. It is largely driven today by "Secular Humanism" which is practiced with a "Religious Fervor" that may out rank Christianity. These secular humanists are rarely open minded or deterred from their biased and narrow views on life and creation. Their doctrine and creeds despise any reference or attempts to lay the discoveries and benefits of science at the feet of a Creator God. This of course is not ignorance, but purely rebellion and hatred toward God. But, we Christians know the end of the story. Praise God!!!
God Bless, Herm

At 6:47 AM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

Excellent points, Herm. A famous atheist once said, and I'm paraphrasing, "I guess the reason we were so quick to jump on to the Evolution bandwagon is because the idea of God interfered with our sexual mores."

At 1:48 PM, Anonymous V said...

You are justifying one bad behaviour with another one. If ther are people in "scientific community" actiong arrogant/ignorant, it doesn't make science bad/false!! It's like blaming the entire religion for a few bad priests!!

As I said before, science is all about seeking truth. Your examples only prove it - Science never really got stuck with 'earth is flat' theory. Science is open for review/validations/test and change.

At 10:39 PM, Blogger Ms.Green said...

V, you seem to be changing your stance on science. In an earlier comment you said:

How can science be wrong? It canbe incomplete due to on-going research/study. However, it can never be wrong since science is all bout truth.

You also said:

Remember, science is always right. Otherwise, it's not science, it will be just an opinion.

Now in your last post you said:

As I said before, science is all about seeking truth.

What changed?

At 7:09 AM, Anonymous V said...

I have changed nothing. You were quoting bad examples of science to prove your point. Let me repeat - science is all about truth and it can never be wrong. It's all about undrstanding how things work. It doesn't mean that they will have the answer in the very first attempt. It proposes theories, review/validate them and correct them and find the truth. Best example is Light theory. Since Newton, our understanding has definitely changed. It doesn't make science wrong. The same thing goes in medicine. It simply means that we were at different stages of understanding/discovery. I can give tons of examples of like this.

The most beautiful thing about science is it never stops learning/questioning and accepting change. It never gets stuck in the past.

Calling science a bluff based on a few bad apples in scientific community is as illogical as calling an entire religion a bluff based on a few bad priests.


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